Hello Satan and Mayday,
What a poignant and interesting thread you have started! Who would have imagined that back in the early to mid-90's, when "raves" first began to come into existence, things would have continued to such an extent as to infiltrate popular television and the world around us to the extent that it has.
Speaking from my own personal perspective, my worldview was strongly "refocused", after I started going to raves. Before raves, I went to clubs, starting out at the Warehouse down in Cincinnati in 93 - 94. (This is where I had my first exposure to underground dance music) Before that, I had a fake ID and went to places like Peppermint Twist in Indy. (Lots of electric sliding and drinking alcohol) [ :angst.gif" border=0> I still had plenty of drinking alcohol at the dance clubs (Asylum. 1470's, Cooters, Vertigo, The Edge in Kansas City, MO), but my musical tastes were definitely changing, and shortly after I started going to clubs, it wasn't too long before I was listening exclusively dance music.
If I had not gone to raves, I can't imagine that my life would be anywhere nearly as rewarding as it is currently. When I was going to clubs, my understanding of the music was essentially, "I buy this CD I got at the store and I listen to it in my car......at the time I was pretty much assuming that the DJ who was playing the music in the booth was basically doing that too"...of course the DJ in the booth was finding better techno than I was so going out to the club was a good thing to do because I could listen to lots of good music. (At one point, I remember being shown the cover of a record that held one particular song I especially liked.....this was the first time I saw a dance record.)
After I started going to raves,I was now going to a place where instead of just drinking and altering my perception of reality while listening to dance music I was now going to a place where I could experience altered states of consciousness while learning about music genres and seeing live PA sets! With time, my attraction to the state of drunkenness passed and although it was quickly replaced with an attraction to other altered states of consciousness, those feelings too began to diminish with time. I have found that even though my interest in this subject matter has essentially dropped to a baseline interest level, the excitement I feel regarding techno and house music has not only remained strong, but experienced a persistent and constant growth. This may be due to the fact that this music has served to guide me through some of the most difficult points in my life! I really can't imagine a point in my life, no matter how old I get, that music won't be a core component of my overall existence. ![](http://www.lolli.org/images/Site/Smilies/listen:]<br><br>Speaking to Satan's original South Park postings, with exposure on commercial television, it is clear that the music from "the underground" has definitely poked its head out and starting walking around in broad daylight. Regarding the enthusiasm and dedication of the Tween Wave adherents, one can not deny that music does have a powerful ability to influence one's thoughts and decision making choices. The degree to which this may be happening in our current day world is up to debate, but the fact that it does contribute, can not be disputed.<br><br>To me, this concept led nicely into Mayday's posting about his experiences from a time gone by and how he feels that the young people of today in the Pittsburgh scene are doing the same thing that he was doing back then. I'd say that as long as the same kind of outcomes are happening in people's lives, then essentially the trajectory is unbroken and continuity is maintained. If, by chance, the outcomes are different, has continuity really been maintained? If not, should anything be done and if so, what? Does a rose, by any other name, really smell as sweet? Are all scenes created equal and if not, to what degree are some scenes better or worse than others? Why?<br><br>It is my sincere hope that my contribution to our shared thread has not only helped you enrich your [satan and mayday] experiences with it, but for all those who might read it and/or comment on it.<br><br>Wishing you All the Best,<br><br><br><br>:) </td></tr><tr><td> </td></tr></table></td></tr></table><div class=) | | Speaking to Satan's original South Park postings, with exposure on commercial television, it is clear that the music from "the underground" has definitely poked its head out and starting walking around in broad daylight. Regarding the enthusiasm and dedication of the Tween Wave adherents, one can not deny that music does have a powerful ability to influence one's thoughts and decision making choices. The degree to which this may be happening in our current day world is up to debate, but the fact that it does contribute, can not be disputed.
To me, this concept led nicely into Mayday's posting about his experiences from a time gone by and how he feels that the young people of today in the Pittsburgh scene are doing the same thing that he was doing back then. I'd say that as long as the same kind of outcomes are happening in people's lives, then essentially the trajectory is unbroken and continuity is maintained. If, by chance, the outcomes are different, has continuity really been maintained? If not, should anything be done and if so, what? Does a rose, by any other name, really smell as sweet? Are all scenes created equal and if not, to what degree are some scenes better or worse than others? Why?
It is my sincere hope that my contribution to our shared thread has not only helped you enrich your [satan and mayday] experiences with it, but for all those who might read it and/or comment on it.
Wishing you All the Best,
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