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pablo814
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Layla knows that the tantrum doesn't work on me... Mom is a different story..
 
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satan
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Post from MessiahcorpsJust be poor, no more gold diggers! Solutions!

Really though, can no one see through a gold digger? I've never had this joyous experience of someone only using me for my dinero.
you really don't have to be rich to be used for cash. Hell, they don't even have to sleep with you or be in a relationship with. Buy a drink here, pay for dinner there...Its adds up and you'll never guess you were used for anything because you were such a willing MARK.

Seriously chicks have a way of getting shit off guys with out even trying, you might have been used just never realized it hahaha
 
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pablo814
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Post from satanyou really don't have to be rich to be used for cash. Hell, they don't even have to sleep with you or be in a relationship with. Buy a drink here, pay for dinner there...Its adds up and you'll never guess you were used for anything because you were such a willing MARK.

Seriously chicks have a way of getting shit off guys with out even trying, you might have been used just never realized it hahaha
word up. This will be the first year that I make more than 30k, and ex's/skanks/crumbsnatchers have tried to get me to shell out the coin since I was 18... didn't work tho, but...

IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU!!!(this works both ways, ladies. I know alot of chicks that have become the enabler)
 
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Shakin2daBeat420
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yea i pay for a lot of shit- what the fuck...

lol... my boyfriend.. hates going to parties- and i love to.. so i took him to the last couple- bought him to get in.. and party favors- .. and he still complained at the end of the night

i told him i was going to snuggle without him.. and he flipped out cause he said he never gets to spend time with me.. and i am like.. you can come.. bhut you have to pay for yourself.. cause everytime i spent money on you .. you complained..

moral of the story!

i am going to snuggle with one of my best friends.. marcus!

lol

boyfriend is staying home..
 
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pablo814
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Post from Shakin2daBeat420yea i pay for a lot of shit- what the fuck...

lol... my boyfriend.. hates going to parties- and i love to.. so i took him to the last couple- bought him to get in.. and party favors- .. and he still complained at the end of the night

i told him i was going to snuggle without him.. and he flipped out cause he said he never gets to spend time with me.. and i am like.. you can come.. bhut you have to pay for yourself.. cause everytime i spent money on you .. you complained..

moral of the story!

i am going to snuggle with one of my best friends.. marcus!

lol

boyfriend is staying home..
I wish I could get to the burgh by myself, let alone a party...

My g/f is a homebody, so she doesn't mind if I go out, but it takes alot for me to get drunk, so her main complaint is that I spend dough and have nothing to show for it, but to me I do. I night of fun with friends builds memories, stories, etc. that are something to show...
 
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Shakin2daBeat420
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^^ see i can agree with you on that one... but my boyfriend.. doesnt like going to parties- if he liked going i wouldnt mind paying

but since he hates them and just watches me.. all night.. it is kinda strange for me to even want him to come..

cause i talk and hang out with everyone.. i dont care.. male .. female.. whatever

however my boyfriend.. is mad jealous..

i dunno i am the type of girl.. when we go to parties.. you go to your thing.. i will do mine.. we meet up everyonce in awhile to acknowledge eachother... then we meet at the end of the night! cause we go home together..

thats just how i like it.. real simple
 
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satan
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SexiMama42o Wrote:
i told him i was going to snuggle without him.. and he flipped out cause he said he never gets to spend time with me


hahahaha he probably said that cause he doesnt trust you going out on your own..

If I were him I wouldn't want to go to rave either but then again I wouldn't be in a long term committed relationship, so I'd probably wouldn't care where you went.

 
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satan
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Post from SARABEST commercial ever.


we studied that commercial in advertising class lol.
oh it seriously is,
It really does get the point across and targets its audience brilliantly.
Kind of like kicking guys in the nutts just to get their attention.
 
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Shakin2daBeat420
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Post from satan

SexiMama42o Wrote:
i told him i was going to snuggle without him.. and he flipped out cause he said he never gets to spend time with me


hahahaha he probably said that cause he doesnt trust you going out on your own..

If I were him I wouldn't want to go to rave either but then again I wouldn't be in a long term committed relationship, so I'd probably wouldn't care where you went.

why do people think that if you go to a rave .. you are going to get on someone...

damn it people.. i just go to dance.. fuck getting on anyone.. i am there for the people and the music

 
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satan
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Post from Shakin2daBeat420why do people think that if you go to a rave .. you are going to get on someone...

damn it people.. i just go to dance.. fuck getting on anyone.. i am there for the people and the music

A lot of times its just not that "people are getting it on" that can get a guy upset. It can be other things too in colaberation to that.
Its called Emotional Infidelity:


The traditional definition of cheating, or infidelity, is that one person in a committed relationship is physically involved with someone other than their spouse. Due to a number of factors, cheating behavior has been reclassified to include the traditional definition and a more contemporary definition, known as emotional infidelity. People, especially our generation never take this seriously but I believe its the cause for 70% of physical infidelity in a relationship and well over 50% of all break ups.

Emotional infidelity is defined as any infidelity that occurs through feeling or thought. During the late 1970s, in an interview with Playboy magazine, former President Jimmy Carter stated that occasionally he "lusted in (his) heart" for women other than his wife. His thoughts were equated with infidelity, and he was considered to be unfaithful to his marriage, even though his statement described emotional infidelity, not physical infidelity.

Since that time, and with the technological development of cell phones and the internet, the definition of cheating has been expanded to include the traditional definition, plus the feelings and/or thoughts that comprise emotional infidelity. Cheating now includes having intimate correspondence with someone while on a cell phone, meeting someone over the Internet and maintaining a relationship, or viewing pornographic material through any available source.

The Difference Between Traditional Cheating and Emotional Infidelity

The primary difference between traditional cheating and emotional infidelity is actual, physical contact. Traditionally, cheating involves people meeting face to face, and then engaging in physical intimacy. With emotional infidelity, there may be a meeting, but it can occur on a cell phone or a computer. There may be physical activity involved, but it is conducted within the confines of separate locations; the people involved aren't "actually" touching. Many of the people who are emotionally cheating don't consider it to be infidelity. Their rationale is that, because there is no actual physical contact, the behavior can't be considered cheating.

For some people, there is no difference between traditional and emotional infidelity. They view emotional infidelity as having the same behavioral components and end result as traditional cheating; therefore, any perceived differences are a moot point. When someone cheats, they use flirtation, discussion, seduction, and discretion - regardless of where either person is located or what vehicle of communication they are using. The end result is that the unfaithful spouse is paying emotional and/or physical attention to someone other than their partner, and they are removing themselves from the marriage commitment.

Emotional Intimacy Can Lead To Physical Intimacy

Emotional infidelity begins with the exchange of personal information. As the people involved get acquainted, the information exchanged becomes more personal. When the information becomes personal, it can lead to a face-to-face meeting and, most likely, physical intimacy. It can be argued that emotional infidelity is harmless because it is more of a casual relationship than traditional cheating; however, the intimate nature of the communication, plus the emotional investment made by the people involved, places emotional infidelity on the same level as traditional cheating.

Considering the wide-reaching capabilities of the internet, the continuing advancement of cell phone technology, and the various other communication devices available, the number of people engaged in emotional infidelity will only increase. People cannot be stopped from engaging in an illicit affair, but they should consider the effect that cheating will have on the spouse. They should also consider the possible consequences of emotional infidelity, which can be the same as those of traditional infidelity, including divorce.







 
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zero0sero
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^^^  for some reason... I just felt like I was in college again...
 
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satan
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Post from zero0sero^^^  for some reason... I just felt like I was in college again...
well hopefully you learned something
 
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satan
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for some reason its harder for women to admit Emotional infidelity rather then the guys.  partly because women don't see flirting, hanging out with their "guy friends", or dancing with other people as anything but just something strictly platonic. but try and see if a guy could get away with doing the same shit and see what happens.

 
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Messiahcorps
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Post from satanfor some reason its harder for women to admit Emotional infidelity rather then the guys.  partly because women don't see flirting, hanging out with their "guy friends", or dancing with other people as anything but just something strictly platonic. but try and see if a guy could get away with doing the same shit and see what happens.

qft. Women's thought patterns are so different from mens. I've had this argument with my g/f over guys too often :)

But it's more because, I'm a guy. I know guys. And I know the guy they're talking with and hanging with is thinking about hitting it whether he wants to or not :)
 
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satan
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Post from Messiahcorpsqft. Women's thought patterns are so different from mens. I've had this argument with my g/f over guys too often :)

But it's more because, I'm a guy. I know guys. And I know the guy they're talking with and hanging with is thinking about hitting it whether he wants to or not :)
I was kind of leaning towards that,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Are_from_Mars%2C_Women_Are_from_Venus

 
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spinfinity
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Post from satanfor some reason its harder for women to admit Emotional infidelity rather then the guys.  partly because women don't see flirting, hanging out with their "guy friends", or dancing with other people as anything but just something strictly platonic. but try and see if a guy could get away with doing the same shit and see what happens.


i dunno about all this...

so, what, if you're in a comitted relationship you're no longer allowed to be emotionally involved with anyone else?  or is it you can't get emotionally involved with anyone new?  or what?  how do friendships fit in?

i was in a relationship years ago where the dude would always freak out about all of my close friendships with other people...  especially males, but also females, and these were friends i had had for far longer than him.   i could see him thinking along these lines:  that the emotional intimacy i had with them would lead to physical intimacy.  he would feel like he meant less to me than they did.  those friendships were all severely damaged by my reactions to this, and my attempting to "prove" to him otherwise.   i now realize what i didn't realize then - whether he was trying to or not, he was controlling me.  i tried so hard to understand his fears, which even he would often admit were irrational, and it ended up screwing us both when the anger i subconsciously held at being controlled exploded.  well there was a whole hell of a lot more to it than that, but i'm not going to get into all of that.

a bit of a tangent..  but still, i don't understand this "emotional infidelity" thing, or at least how it is supposed to be defined.  there is often a sexually charged undertone to male-female friendships, but that doesn't mean that there is intention of sex.  is it only cheating if secrecy is involved?

Emotional infidelity begins with the exchange of personal information. As the people involved get acquainted, the information exchanged becomes more personal. When the information becomes personal, it can lead to a face-to-face meeting and, most likely, physical intimacy. It can be argued that emotional infidelity is harmless because it is more of a casual relationship than traditional cheating; however, the intimate nature of the communication, plus the emotional investment made by the people involved, places emotional infidelity on the same level as traditional cheating.


how is this different from the formation of a friendship?  i don't understand.
 
DHPfelony
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^^^ by the inttentions that it was started under
 
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PDub
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^I can see this from both sides. Hows a girl to know if her guy friends are REALLY her guy friends?

It sucks that there aren't more girl-guy friendships that don't have sexual intentions. My ex was suspicious of all of my guy friends and I thought he was stupid. I mean, why would my childhood friends want to do me??

one by one, I found out many of my guy friends had secret feelings and I damn near barfed. I didn't think it was cute but a violation of trust. For all the tomboys out there, its a tough world. I used to wear those flattening bras so my friends (all dudes back then) didn't make fun of me when we were out riding go karts and building forts.

where did all the tomboys go??? they started making friends with girls cause too many dudes couldn't control their damn hormones. thats my guess...

on the flipside, I have a few guy friends that I trust completely to have non sexual or romantical intentions. but deep down I hafta be cautious that someday I'll find out differently...
 
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satan
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Post from satanfor some reason its harder for women to admit Emotional infidelity rather then the guys.  partly because women don't see flirting, hanging out with their "guy friends", or dancing with other people as anything but just something strictly platonic. but try and see if a guy could get away with doing the same shit and see what happens.

spinfinity wrote:
but still, i don't understand this "emotional infidelity" thing, or at least how it is supposed to be defined.  there is often a sexually charged undertone to male-female friendships, but that doesn't mean that there is intention of sex.  is it only cheating if secrecy is involved?


^^^I think this statement alone goes with my original post up above.
Keep in mind this is all theoretical, feel free to disagree. Maybe you have a better theory as to what a major cause for 70% of physical infidelity in a relationship and well over 50% of all break ups other then men are just to controling.
Maybe there is a reason why we come off as such??
All Im saying is that the theory has merit if you if consider how men and women see things in a different manner if you go by the "Gray point system" discussed in the "Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus" book theres a example in the link I posted up.

I personally think there would be something very questionable about a guy who ISN'T the slightest bit jelly belly about another rooster hanging around the hen house.
Thats just me though,
 
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spinfinity
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so what about your answer to my initial question then?  are you saying that, once in a committed relationship, a person is no longer allowed to be emotionally intimate with any other person, without falling under this "emotional infidelity" idea?

[qoute]Maybe you have a better theory as to what a major cause for 70% of physical infidelity in a relationship and well over 50% of all break ups other then men are just to controling.[/quote]

that wasn't my theory...  and i never said all men were too controlling.  i did say, in my personal experience, that one specific man's jealousy caused a situation in which my emotions/personality/lifestyle were being controlled.  this did not lead to physical infidelity. it lead to repeated explosions of anger which are what lead to the break up.

as to a theory to the cause of physical infidelity...  people are fickle.  both men and women. *shrug* that's all i got for ya.

don't think i'm being argumentative for no reason, i really am trying to understand it from another point of view.  like i said, i tried really fucking hard to understand my ex's jealousy, which may have stemmed from him feeling like there was "emotional infidelity" involved in my relationships with others.  like i said, this was not just my friendships with other men, but actually every single deep friendship that i had at the time.  i'm still trying to understand what happened during that relationship, so i am really curious about this idea, but also kind of naturally defensive about it.  
 
Messiahcorps
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In reference to your question. I don't think it should be that you can't have any emotional contact during dating, more so than you should just make sure your man is number 1. As men, we want to know everything about you. What you feel and what you think, even if we can't wrap our heads around it. We want to fix everything that bothers or hurts you. We want to be the reason that you are happy and we want to feel that we do the job and do it well. I don't think it's so a big a problem with talking with women, unlike the article said, but that could be a situational matter. A guy would be devastated if he discovered his girlfriend was sharing very personal information about herself with another man. He would feel like less of a human being. Like he can't meet your needs, in response, we get angry because we don't know why we can't meet needs and from that point on until someone takes a hold of the situation, it just goes downhill. I don't know if I came close to answering. It's easier to know what is felt than to put it in words.
 
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Shakin2daBeat420
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^^ things make more sense when i hear it from another perspective.. i kinda understand why my boyfriend is kinda jealous- and i understand men a lot more now after reading what you just read


*thanks for shinning a little light on my end*
 
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zero0sero
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Post from MessiahcorpsIn reference to your question. I don't think it should be that you can't have any emotional contact during dating, more so than you should just make sure your man is number 1. As men, we want to know everything about you. What you feel and what you think, even if we can't wrap our heads around it. We want to fix everything that bothers or hurts you. We want to be the reason that you are happy and we want to feel that we do the job and do it well. I don't think it's so a big a problem with talking with women, unlike the article said, but that could be a situational matter. A guy would be devastated if he discovered his girlfriend was sharing very personal information about herself with another man. He would feel like less of a human being. Like he can't meet your needs, in response, we get angry because we don't know why we can't meet needs and from that point on until someone takes a hold of the situation, it just goes downhill. I don't know if I came close to answering. It's easier to know what is felt than to put it in words.
so very true..... yet so very untrue...   I definitely feel/felt this way about the people that I have been with.   When I dated women, this is what I felt and tried to do. But now that I am with my bf....   yes, I still feel this way about him.... but I know for a fact he doesn't feel those same emotions towards me... It sucks and I don't understand why...  maybe its cuz he is far more gay than I am...  Maybe his thought process is built more like a woman's...   Really wish he would show these same emotions, maybe then we would actually have a working relationship....
 
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TINK
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The way this thread has gone has irritated me...

Emotional infidelity... I believe it exists, yes... but is it defined by developing an emotional bond with someone?  no...

Emotional infidelity would be developing feelings for someone (willingly or unwillingly) that you would (and should) have for your bf/gf or wife/husband; NOT developing friendships.  

As far as the girls seeing nothing wrong with their friendships but not letting their guys do the same?  I've been that girl... I realize now that it's not worth the pain it causes both of us... He's coming home to me and that's all that matters... Just keep in mind that a lot of girls in today's age have trust issues in relationships because of guys that hurt them in some way (usually cheating....). Just let your girl know in little subtle ways that she is the only girl who has your heart every day...

I'm still trying to trust, and it's hard, but I know I can just because he still smiles at me from across the room...
 
TheScythian462
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Just let your girl know in little subtle ways that she is the only girl who has your heart every day...


in other words, buy her stuff.

Heh heh.  Just kiddin.
 
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